Hi guys, does anyone know what is the reason for Athom not being able to (temporarily?) ship to EU?
thanks for any clarifications...
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The reason why they can't send anything to the EU has to do with a lawsuit they lost against the Dutch smarthome product by Athom (Homey) That is why thay are changing their brand to IoTorero (as seen on the newest WLED product). This has nothing to do with the quality of their products.
Still waiting on the availability of their WLED GU10 spots.
One more comment - I'm interrested especially in Tasmota lights, still banned:
This product is temporarily prohibited from being shipped to the EU. Buyers who require shipping to the EU are advised not to place orders. Orders that are placed will be canceled and refunded.
Hi All, I'm from EU, Czech Republic. tasmota.shop is now closed, atom texh disappeared from Aliexpres, Tasmota pre-flashed devices disappeared from local electronic shops, so I'm confused, plus the rebranding. What about customs clearence? Proces on this shop are without EU VAT, right? So if I'll buy something here, cutom clearence is my responsibility and I've to pay custom taxes, right?
I'm writing this message on Dec 28 2024; the forum doesn't show year in post dates, I hope this thread is from 2024, or not?
I agree with you! Athom should answer these question on their site and explain why therir products are no longer available on AliExpress. In the absence of an explanation from them, I personally will no longer use their products even though they are of excellent quality
All our products include VAT, so buyers do not need to pay related fees. The previous product link of the AliExpress store has expired and cannot be restored, so we have created a new linkhttps://www.aliexpress.com/store/1101393719
Received my first ESPHome Plugs V2 from China already. Ordered on this site shortly after the message that orders would be cancelled had disappeared. Apparently rebranded "IoTorero" now?
I don't know what changed, but right now it is possible to buy from EU again. I contacted Athom and they simply replied saying now everything is ok... 🤷♂️😅
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03 dic 2024
Surely they'll have to rename themselves and rebrand everything. That'll take time, and money... I can't imagine that can be done very quickly, unfortunately. It also puzzles me they didn't do this a lot more calmly earlier instead of going to court. Oh well.
Like everyone else here, I was looking to buy a ton of stuff from them this Back Friday period. :-)
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02 dic 2024
All the EU style plugs are also gone from the store, I assume by the demand of the big bro Athom, lol, cause countries outside of EU that use the same style plug just don't exist for these entitled pricks. I'm not big on home automation, but I'll see what I can get into just to buy a few other things to support this business, since after witnessing the endless lamentations of average home automation users on the internet struggling to set up complex servers and begging their overlords to allow them to use devices they bought on their own LAN (and going through some of that myself) what Athom Tech offers seems like the peak of usability. Within minutes with just my smartphone I was able to set the plug up and program it to do what I wanted autonomously (not through any network) so that I can at least hope that it'll work reliably without supervision, instead of being 100% certain that at some point it's inevitably going to fail. Sorry for the rant, going through the comments on that original lawsuit article riled me up.
Reading it, it IMHO also sounds like 'big company with lots of lawyers' versus small business with one person (or only a few + outsource manufacturing) who can't afford to fight the case.
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It is normal to not use another deposited trademark for similar products, I am curious how athom will deal with that.
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I hope too
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20 nov 2024
Yes the products are so great. Is there hope that it will be solved soon?
The reason why they can't send anything to the EU has to do with a lawsuit they lost against the Dutch smarthome product by Athom (Homey) That is why thay are changing their brand to IoTorero (as seen on the newest WLED product). This has nothing to do with the quality of their products.
Still waiting on the availability of their WLED GU10 spots.
Link to a English post about this lawsuit:
https://community.homey.app/t/athom-wins-lawsuit-against-chinese-athom-tech-and-aliexpress/121124
One more comment - I'm interrested especially in Tasmota lights, still banned:
This product is temporarily prohibited from being shipped to the EU. Buyers who require shipping to the EU are advised not to place orders. Orders that are placed will be canceled and refunded.:-(
Hi All, I'm from EU, Czech Republic. tasmota.shop is now closed, atom texh disappeared from Aliexpres, Tasmota pre-flashed devices disappeared from local electronic shops, so I'm confused, plus the rebranding. What about customs clearence? Proces on this shop are without EU VAT, right? So if I'll buy something here, cutom clearence is my responsibility and I've to pay custom taxes, right?
I'm writing this message on Dec 28 2024; the forum doesn't show year in post dates, I hope this thread is from 2024, or not?
Received my first ESPHome Plugs V2 from China already. Ordered on this site shortly after the message that orders would be cancelled had disappeared. Apparently rebranded "IoTorero" now?
Yes, they are shipping to the EU. I live in Hungary, received today my package.
The notice is gone, does anyone know if they're shipping to the EU?
The store is back to order again but is not yet available on Aliexpress
now we just need the EU lightswitches to be back 😇
Its open to order again in europe
Now restored
I hope Athom finds a solution quickly. It is a shame that Athom products which are excellent can no longer be purchased in Europe
Surely they'll have to rename themselves and rebrand everything. That'll take time, and money... I can't imagine that can be done very quickly, unfortunately. It also puzzles me they didn't do this a lot more calmly earlier instead of going to court. Oh well.
Like everyone else here, I was looking to buy a ton of stuff from them this Back Friday period. :-)
All the EU style plugs are also gone from the store, I assume by the demand of the big bro Athom, lol, cause countries outside of EU that use the same style plug just don't exist for these entitled pricks. I'm not big on home automation, but I'll see what I can get into just to buy a few other things to support this business, since after witnessing the endless lamentations of average home automation users on the internet struggling to set up complex servers and begging their overlords to allow them to use devices they bought on their own LAN (and going through some of that myself) what Athom Tech offers seems like the peak of usability. Within minutes with just my smartphone I was able to set the plug up and program it to do what I wanted autonomously (not through any network) so that I can at least hope that it'll work reliably without supervision, instead of being 100% certain that at some point it's inevitably going to fail. Sorry for the rant, going through the comments on that original lawsuit article riled me up.
Any news from team please ?
Assume its due to this: https://community.homey.app/t/athom-wins-lawsuit-against-chinese-athom-tech-and-aliexpress/121124
Reading it, it IMHO also sounds like 'big company with lots of lawyers' versus small business with one person (or only a few + outsource manufacturing) who can't afford to fight the case.
I hope too
Yes the products are so great. Is there hope that it will be solved soon?